"Hurry, I need to get my films digitized!"
"You should go on with a diy-kit . Hardware and a softwarepackage which fits to a Raspbery Pi, OSX or/and Android."
"Was thinking of purchasing machine to not only digitize my own films, but offer a local service to others that would like their films digitized."
"I would need additional software for linear scratch removal, color and saturation adjustment, etc."
"I need ti do this Also for a museum before The summerif you are interested in any way promoting youre system i would be very happy..The miseum is about hystory and old jobs in italy."
"I am interested in the fun of building a machine and doing it myself. To me it's more about the process than the end result. Started on my own telecine a number of years back but never finished because quality was going to be the issue. Kinoscope looks like the ideal solution."
"Thank you for investing so much into this project."
"Another reason we haven't digitized is the fragility of the film. The film is from the 60s and 70s and several reels have broken in the projector."
"Both alternative solutions I think fall short. The cheap version must have superb image quality. Does not need to be quick. As I said, only quality counts. Anything else is just boring and is not going to take off."
"GREAT PROJECT- KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!"
"A 4k machine able to convert negative. Also allowing for full frame including sprockets. Speed is not important, image detail is! Keep up the good work."
"I'm entering an experience of shooting a feature-film in super 8mm black and white, self developed. It would be of great use to have a DIY machine to digitize it."
"First, you need to build a machine better than your competition, so quality vs cost is job 1. The rest is nice but not essential. online storage could be internetarchive."
"Rental and dropoff will probably not be available for me in Sweden anyway."
"I would not trust my dad's(he died in 1987) films with any service as some of them are over 50 years old, my mother is 77 years old and has not seem them in descades."
"I have many more films that I want HD video of with enough quality that I can in future remove lines and noise etc."
"I will sell the DVD to family with the proceeds to charity."
Hi, you could get local communities interested. Like . Keep going the open source way anyway
"Rental is not a good solution, because I expect that some months are needed to be familiar with the equipment and get the best quality out. Instead of rent I wolud prefer buy-use-resale."
"Still hoping the super8 scanner DIY kit will get online :-)"
"You are doing a fantastic job this is an exciting and important project. I can't wait until there is something I can build. The current version with the extruded aluminium is too costly for me. But I would love to see some form of kit and a cheaper frame.... Films are degrading as we speak, this project is urgent! Welldone, keep up the great work."
"Some time I like to shot in standard 8 and super 8. I often digitalize my movies like this"
"Color space, and high bitrate like ProRes is important to me."
"Please, a low cost machine would be great for me, I have an IT background, just need the basic engineering completed for me..."
"I want not only my memories preserved but the chance to use them for upcoming film projects."
"Get a print kit out! My father passed away 3 months ago and I think he would have liked the ease of seeing them on a CD which I can easely make. I want as good of quality as possible since the 8mm film is old."
"Avoid low quality and cheap solutions. There too many of them already. Focus on quality and open source."
"I am also interested to restore footage and or dig. enhancement."
"Editing is also a concern. Many of the films's value are unknown until they can be viewed."
"I would like to accomplish the work yesterday."
"I need to see a price for he machine and weight that against the cost (and risks) of sending my film for conversation."
"Have used other services, but quality and lack of control gave disapointing results. Better solutions too expensive."
"I like the idea of making available clips for licensing. This would unlock thousands of hours of previously unseen amateur film."
"idealy this machine would be used to transfer all my friends and relatives films to offset the cost."
"Quality please. Speed is not important."
"I hand painted, baked, inked, etc my films. I bet many service providers wouldn't run my films through their machines."
"I would love a simple, inexpensive unit that digitizes individual frames. Speed is not an issue. If the transport is reliable, it can be started and run overnight, etc. Software would do the rest... Good luck!"
"I been considering starting a business transferring old film to digital media. The cost of the high quality gear has been a hurdle. I believe there are many folks of my generation who have stacks of these things rotting away that need a little help saving them for the next generations. 8mm is the tintype of our generation."
"cost of what i'm willing to spend is relative to how much i spend on parts to build a device vs cost of paying for a service."
"Would be great if there was a DIY kit available. Open source could be interesting as well."
"Thank you thank you thank you!"
"Would want to share digitized films with family. Would also be interested in converting it into a cheap 35mm photo scanner as have 70x 35mm rolls."
"I've tried printing the sprockets on my own, but I just don't have the patience for it."
"Would like to see professional version. Also, maker space locations would love this!"
"I really like to see this project stay open source, their is so much that others could help improve on."
"Would like to know if color restoration tools are part of the package."
"Good luck for your project."
"Thank you for your efforts in this project. I am available to assist in any way possible."
"Great that you did this!!! Hopefully it doesn't become an expensive system. I would like to see a place in my neighborhood where people can come by to digitize their reels. I'm willing to give such a place for the people."
"No one will take better care of my family's artifacts than I will. I'm uncomfortable with sending the reels out for digitization due to fear of loss/damage."
"I want high quality - can be slow."
"I would like to digitize 35mm. I don't need to digitize 8mm, because I can get an projector for 8mm easily."
"I'd like something so simple my 80 yr old gal friend can plop a reel in, have the film copied to a sdhc card and take that card to her laptop and play it... unit must be self-contained - I don't want to wear out my cameras... and at $1000+ is should be repairable... and by the way, there are 1,000s of historical societies with lots of 8mm n super8 they're doing nothing with, many won't even take ANY films - 16mm, 8mm or super8 cuz they've no way to deal with the stuff... if I could do 10 or 15 small reels a day, essentially unattended, I'd start digitizing for my local hist soc tomorrow..."
"Mixed use is my intent, I have dozens of standard 8mm films to re-transfer or digitize for the first time. Second motive is to offer digitization / restoration as a service to others. If I could establish a reputation for reliable affordable 8mm work I'd want to also offer 16mm services. Look at the new BlackMagic Designs Telecine, that is the ideal machoine but lacks an 8mm gate and while a fraction of the cost of Telecines from a generation ago it is still too costly for an independant operator working in a home studio like me. Why not test the waters with a KickStarter project? If it fails to gain traction and meet minimum goal you don't have to move forward in that direction. Don't be allergic to making a little money for yourself and being a business, build enough profit into the price so you can live comfortably if sales take off, if you price it too low it becomes a burdensome job rather than a win-win for you and customers like me. Machcine rental idea is not good at all, drop it, old school model the industry is abandoning, high end gear has become commoditized and producers/editors are buying their own rigs."
"Quality is important; otherwise I'd be using a RPI camera module. 1080 isn't going to cut it seek g as when 4k and higher res becomes standard the film will have already deteriorated."
"I see the possibility of offering conversion to others if I built a unit, which would justify the effort perhaps more than just my own need."
"Hi, in my way of seeing it, this project should be a machine that you can buy, so people can become more independent."
"A rental would be ideal since it encourages one to stay on task and complete the transfers more timely. Thank you for all your efforts and keeping me informed."
"I'm part of a voluntary organisation that preserves the personal collections of people who've worked in the film and tv industry. We document their home movies and memories. There's no funding to pay for this, so those of us doing the work tend to pay personally for the preservation. I occasionally licence footage for documentary use to bring a very small amount of revenue back into the project. I work with 8 / 16 and occasionally 35 mm sources."
"My grandfather collected 75 (150+ foot reels of super 8 footage) from 1969 through to 1984. JUst over half is from local locations and internantional travel. Quite amazing archival footage. I still want to digitize the remaining 35 reels, the rest of the family who paid for the or ginal 25 reels are only interested in the first batch as it's all about the the family."
"What do YOU want ? Mounting a business or a Business ? Do you want to make a living out of that ? The machine you have at this moment is very attractive. All formats can be processed. The only thing (very hard, I know) is to have cheaper camera without moving parts. Then: a machine to rent for 2 days can only be done in the USA. And please don't forget: The World is your stage !!"
"The thing that attracted me to Kinograph was the flexibility in the idea. To be able to constantly tinker, improve and upgrade your own setup is always a fun process. Although my usage currently would be limited I enjoy the challenge of learning something new."
"I know it is for 8mm strictly... but my inputs to this form is for 16mm. Sorry not your priority though but we are loosing heritage material & lack of funding is stopping us. Hence we are very supportive & hopeful someday you prioratise 16mm too. Thanks in advance for your time, effort, support to film fraternity."
"I understand certain parts might need to be 3D printed, but ideally, it'd be great if you just sold kits, or specific parts to DIY, specifically the rollers, and included plans on how to build it on a basic level so that I could use my own building materials. I would actually pay for the plans if you're worried about making money. I'd pay $50 for a building guide, and $50 for all the unique parts that would be needed. I've worked with telecines that run into the 10s of thousands and there's no reason for them to cost that much, but unfortunately I haven't had the time to tinker around with making my own frame accurate unit. I would also want a unit that could do 35mm, 16mm, Super 8, and 8mm. I don't really see a reason to need separate units for different gauges. The rollers used for tight winding film can accomodate all gauges. So if you're not using a claw to advance the frame, it shouldn't matter the gauge of the film, so long as it's a sprocketless system."
"i think when giving away a film to digitize it - there is not only the fear of loosing it in the mail but giving family-only things in the hands of others. so a thing I can rent could be attractive. Actually i think it would be nice if you could clarify what "good enough" quality is. a fill HD Webcam is about 20-50€ the flash befind the film could be done with PowerLEDs so I could not follow what qualioty-problems arise when you give out a kit with 250€.. I understand that this is perhaps not very sustainable but that is tru to most of the things we have like cars, computers, mobiles and so on."
"Matthew, thank you for what you are doing. I'm a filmmaker currently creating within the context of digital technology. I've been at this for a while so I have footage on a lot of film (Super 8 & 16 mm), as well as many video formats. Beside lifeboating my Super 8 imagery to digital format, I'm also considering the creative possibilities of using Kinograph as a creative tool. That's why I like the open system approach. I hald five residencies at teh Experimental Television Center where lots of analog video technologies were either converted or built from the ground up to make devices that were very visually unique. If the open source community had access to the Kinograph code who know what astonishing imagery might result. I urge you to try a dual tracj approach to how you market Kinograph. First start with an open source DIY (do it yourself) hacker model. This is your early adopter customers, those who will optimize, customize, and astonish. The middle adopters who will follo will be very interested in the service model and will be supported by the discoveries of the first wave adopters. Consider that Pro8mm has been in the Super 8 transfer space for several decades and they are very good at what they do."
"Erm, thwere's not much space for comments here is there? Please develop a cheap 8mm home scanner. Please don't spend time and resources making a new ahring website for digitized films. We don't need a new version of YouTube or Vimeo, we do need the hardware that just doesn't exist anywhere (at an affordable price.) I want a scanner to make my own new 8mm films, not so much for scanning archive stuff."
"I'm so very interested in Kinograph because it's reaching home users affordably. Current machines are a minimum of several thousand dollars and are closed source and require specific, closed source software. There's hobbyists, that have invented LED lighting systems, wetgates, and complex post-processing algorithms. I want to be able to leverage these components. The biggest hurdles in my mind are: 1. Transport mechanism. 2. Software for digitization and combining into a video file. Since you've solved those, I want the community to be able to figure out the rest. The last piece for me, is to allow Kinograph to be able to take any image sensor and be aligned properly and triggered to capture. If it can have adjustments to center and position any camera, this opens the possiblities. Someone on a budget could go with a cheap webcam, wheras a prosumer could use a 3-chip video camera."
"I have collected many films through the years, many of them home-shot. I like the idea of digitizing them and using them in art projects, finding the original owners, and generally sharing somehow. The record of history is too great to be lost forever. The only thing that has stopped me is the time and expense to pay to have it done. I have my own method of converting many other forms of analog media, but film is difficult. I have looked at other things that have occasionally been on the market, all seem burdensome, expensive, and then I would also need a nice camera to capture. I am a software developer by trade. I would be interested in your efforts to create a digital repository / community surrounding this idea. Really happy someone is working on this!"
"I'm an experimental filmmaker working almost exclusivley with Super 8. I probably shoot and process 3 or 4 carts of a film a month and currently my only option for high qyuality scans of my films is to send them to Toronto. I'm based in Calgary so the cost of the transfers and shipping and handeling is becomeing very prohibitive. I need a high quality system to digitise my 8mm films and am happy to pay a fair price (maybe around $3000) if the results are professional (ie at least HD or 2K preferably). I would also likely use the transfer system to make scans for other artist and filmmakers in my region as currently there are no suitably professional transfer houses in Western Canada that are also affordable for artists."
"I'm a filmmaker that focuses on super8. I like to experiment with developing my own film, but the hassle and cost of constantly sending film to be digitized discourages me from experimenting more. Having my own machine that provides high quality results would be ideal."
"Family has movie reels from the early 1900's up to 1980's. Looking for a good quality transfer system. Belong to Genealogical Organizations where we are digitizing records for our organization as well as county library system. We have volunteer members that are trained to digitize records and what better place to digitized films than a public library system with cooperating Genealogy Societies."
"I have been able to convert 3 films by using a super 8 movie projector to project the movie onto a screen. I used "Open Broadcaster Sofware" with a webcam to capture the movie. The quality isn't great but is viewable. The problem with that method is that projector bulbs only last 15 hours and cost $70.00 each. Assuming the Kinograph bulb is more durable, it would be cheaper to buy Kinograph than to buy multiple projector bulbs. I also want to help a friend out by converting her old super 8 movies."
"I read you email. Clearly, you’ve given it a lot of thought so I’m not sure why you haven’t reached an answer yet. I’ll propose my solution that satisfies some of your concerns and targets my needs too. I’m retired. I have retired friends who also have films but they aren’t motivated enough to do something with them except talk about them. I suspect nothing will ever be done with many films, and they’ll get put in the trash after an estate sale. I suggest you create a sort of franchise model using (older people as) agents. Build quality tools and then lease/loan/rent them to these agents, perhaps by zipcode. These agents could travel reasonable distances (within their zipcodes) to pick up and deliver the products (removing one of your obstacles). This workforce would typically come from people who appreciated the value of old films, and who could use some extra income while still retaining flexible schedules. Their experience level would continually grow so newby support wouldn’t be required (another concern). Audio recordings of the film owners describing the films could be made when the agent first accepts the films and later delivers the results so consistent documentary steps could be applied. Facebook pages or forums or wikis would list agents to contact for those seeking the services and provide feedback for job performance. A platform to showcase these saved films is inherent in a forum or wiki implementation, although suddenly you’re thrust into an IT environment of capacity and backup issues. I don’t put much stock in a subscription model. One time charges for GIFs or DVDs would work, but most people care about themselves and their friends first and foremost and aren’t gonna pay to view others going forward. Remember, you’ll probably be dealing with 50,000 backyard parties from the 1950s. The rights to post a video would be part of the initial contract, while perhaps offering a small price break for licensing participation. - or - sell me a working model and I’ll build my own local service."